Cindy Blackman Santana and husband Carlos join Bret to talk about her new album "Give The Drummer Some", which includes a cover of John Lennon's "Imagine". They both talk about why they chose that song and address social unrest ("It's very encouraging and empowering to see humanity all over the world stand up collectively against racism") plus advice for life during Covid-19 ("Remember your humanity...you can still wave and smile").